Based on Corbin's review, I purchased these gloves. On a recent Aluminium radiator job, the gloves were comfortable, good tactile feel and gave better than I expected heat protection. I have always used Tillman 25A, but the Black Stallion gloves were far better. With the Tillman's, I feel more reflected heat on my finger tips on both the torch and filler rod hands, especially when the filler rod was down to 3 inches. I now prefer the longer cuff over the Tillman 25A 2 inch cuff. I know the Tillman 25B has a longer cuff, but I really like the Black Stallion gloves now. The aesthetics of the beige/brown color looks better than the my Tillman's White, now black streaked, gloves.